Thing is, Forden'll keep bein' a problem long as he's alive. Even if Lady Rella tells everythin' like she did before, if he's alive people are gonna cling to him. And he'll keep being a racist bloody asshole, jumpin' up and down and pullin' shady shite if things don't go his way.
And if we take him out instead of Louis, that's a giant target on our back from the Sanctist church.
[ eupha is too polite to interrupt. but her thoughts still end up chiming in with the curse was not louis?? and summoning up what few things she knows about saint rella... ]
... Is there no other way to deal with Forden?
[ she doesn't like planning murders.... why are there so many good reasons to murder certain people..... ]
—Oh, yeah, apparently Forden blackmailed Saint Rella into doin' it for him when she was just a kid.
[ shakes his head. ]
Frankly, I wanna see the bastard die no matter what happens, but... I'm just thinkin' that if it's after she tells the truth, and you've got the prince himself there to speak to the public, if we can get in there before he runs his mouth and makes his excuses, there might be a window where public opinion turns against him enough that cuttin' him down would be seen as justice, a little like that sanctoress.
We'd also have the lance. Bein' able to kill him isn't the problem so much as mitigating the potential political fallout from it. Which is why, yeah, doin' it right then when everybody's still reeling, that'd probably be ideal.
Nah, Louis' already did somethin' to him. He's all fucked up under that cloak of his. Part Human an' all. It took the lot of us to deal with him later, and even then we didn't end up takin' him out.
[ junah is always right. (marcoh voice) you don't act like a soldier, and then a few days later he's just casually planning an assassination ]
... Perhaps that would work in our favour, though?
Should he act out in the moment, and we are the ones to stop him and not Forden nor his men, those who trust in Forden's protection may find their hearts moved in a different direction.
[ thinking about how she doesn't really like baiting this sad louis stan to his demise but this is where we are, this is what she's becoming. ]
That's a good point, actually. Might be bad if we actually have to fight him, but as long as we've managed to get the lance back, we could probably rely on the king's magic to take care of him.
[ he hates that fucking king but his magic is really coming in clutch in these scenarios ]
Make it look like the Sanctists are weak ‘cause they let their enemy walk in right under their nose? [ hehe. ] He vanished after the whole Day of Calamity shite he was tryna pull, but— [ he glances over at del ] I don’t think we knew he an’ Louis were plannin’ somethin’?
So, how he got into the Sanctist ranks, specially lookin’ the way he did, is… kinda bonkers. [ imagine if he accidentally thoughtshared the whole teeth-torso nightmare zorba became. imagine if i did that…
Destroyin' his reputation might work? Lady Rella's a popular lady. People'll listen to her. [ ... ] But Louis killin' him worked out well. Hell, all you'd need to do is getting him swingin' for Will with the fake lance. King's magic'll do the rest.
[ but. oh.
right. spoilers, eupha. ] Uh... yeah. Louis weren't the one who cursed the prince, it was Lady Rella, under blackmail orders from Forden.
[ yikes at that???? sometimes you grow up hearing lots of outlandish stories about how evil the sanctists are, and you figure they're bad, but probably not that bad, and then it turns out they're actually worse. man.
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Thing is, Forden'll keep bein' a problem long as he's alive. Even if Lady Rella tells everythin' like she did before, if he's alive people are gonna cling to him. And he'll keep being a racist bloody asshole, jumpin' up and down and pullin' shady shite if things don't go his way.
And if we take him out instead of Louis, that's a giant target on our back from the Sanctist church.
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... Is there no other way to deal with Forden?
[ she doesn't like planning murders.... why are there so many good reasons to murder certain people..... ]
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[ shakes his head. ]
Frankly, I wanna see the bastard die no matter what happens, but... I'm just thinkin' that if it's after she tells the truth, and you've got the prince himself there to speak to the public, if we can get in there before he runs his mouth and makes his excuses, there might be a window where public opinion turns against him enough that cuttin' him down would be seen as justice, a little like that sanctoress.
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[ ... ] Might work. Lady Rella's whole speech helped legitimise the con we were goin' for... 'til, y'know. It turned out to be a non-issue anyway.
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[ why did they just let forden keep it. ]
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[ WHY DID THEY JUST LET FORDEN KEEP IT ]
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[ since that... was apparently a very real risk ]
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[ do not want it to end up in someone else's torso. ]
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Could we just kill Zorba...?
[ junah was right ]
If we got to him before he could haul Louis off and heal him... even if it missed his heart, he still should've died without intervention.
[ ...actually, gets out his notebook so he can start plotting out flowcharts of potential timelines ]
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Nah, Louis' already did somethin' to him. He's all fucked up under that cloak of his. Part Human an' all. It took the lot of us to deal with him later, and even then we didn't end up takin' him out.
[ junah is always right. (marcoh voice) you don't act like a soldier, and then a few days later he's just casually planning an assassination ]
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she would try imagining it but she doesn't know what zorba even looks like. ]
So he would not go down easily...
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It were pretty messed up. And-- yeah, exactly that. We were stronger when we took him down too.
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but probably not this ]
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[ frowns at the page he was starting to chart this out on ]
That's gonna be a problem later too then, isn't it? If we kill Louis while he's there.
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Should he act out in the moment, and we are the ones to stop him and not Forden nor his men, those who trust in Forden's protection may find their hearts moved in a different direction.
[ thinking about how she doesn't really like baiting this sad louis stan to his demise but this is where we are, this is what she's becoming. ]
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[ he hates that fucking king but his magic is really coming in clutch in these scenarios ]
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[ the king's magic. if he's caught up in the moment... ]
We would also be wise to raise the question of how he infiltrated Forden's ranks to begin with.
[ if they can't convince forden's fans that he sucks because of the racism, they could at least make him look like a loser. ]
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Make it look like the Sanctists are weak ‘cause they let their enemy walk in right under their nose? [ hehe. ] He vanished after the whole Day of Calamity shite he was tryna pull, but— [ he glances over at del ] I don’t think we knew he an’ Louis were plannin’ somethin’?
So, how he got into the Sanctist ranks, specially lookin’ the way he did, is… kinda bonkers. [ imagine if he accidentally thoughtshared the whole teeth-torso nightmare zorba became. imagine if i did that…
does that. ]
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Destroyin' his reputation might work? Lady Rella's a popular lady. People'll listen to her. [ ... ] But Louis killin' him worked out well. Hell, all you'd need to do is getting him swingin' for Will with the fake lance. King's magic'll do the rest.
[ but. oh.
right. spoilers, eupha. ] Uh... yeah. Louis weren't the one who cursed the prince, it was Lady Rella, under blackmail orders from Forden.
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but she nods. thanks for spoilers... ]
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*the mustari have rights though. ]